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  1. Interesting thoughts here. But a question: why are you, then, getting a PhD in philosophy from Harvard? It sounds like you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too, leveraging the prestige of the brand in order to attack it because that’s the area in which you can create your own personal brand (and, perhaps, a tenure-track position?). This critique may be too hasty, but it is a legitimate question given the two-sided tendency in this piece to both promote and demote brands, to your personal advantage (for surely, given the logic of the piece, you don’t need to name-drop or use fancy philosophical jargon in order to present the theses that you do, here!)

    • Ron, let me see if I can “bust in here” with my “super-fly ghetto style” and answer your stupid questions.

      Q1. Why are you, then, getting a PhD in philosophy from Harvard?
      A1. He is getting a PhD from Harvard because there is a discussion going on, that’s been going on for over 2000 years, and only professional, academic philosophers are allowed to speak at this table. So his PhD will give him a seat and a voice at the table. But why him? Because he is Black, Ron. And a Black body needs a Black heart, and needs a Black head. You don’t want to see a body with no head Ron, trust me. It’s very disconcerting. (LA Riots, 1993, Pocahontas was on the roof with a shotgun.)

      Q2. It sounds like you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too, leveraging the prestige of the brand in order to attack it because that’s the area in which you can create your own personal brand (and, perhaps, a tenure-track position?).
      A2. Brands are names. And if you were an existentialist, Ron, you’d allow that the meaning is always changing and evolving. Do you blame Harvard for wanting to remain fresh with change and to continue “becoming”? It’s how you stay young. And it’s how you survive. Don’t be so banal. It’s seriously boring.

      As for the so-called “name-dropping”: If Darien is name-dropping, you can’t assume that it’s necessarily for his own personal gain. For all you know, it’s for your benefit, Ron. It’s a warning. That he’s with Harvard. So quit tripping.

  2. Socrates in street or out of it, can’t decide (exception of a poor philosopher). But one thing for sure we have always been taught that philosophy has always been a passtime of Athenian aristocracy rather than the destitutes. Are not your views contrary to history of philosophy?

    • Faisal, you asked: “Socrates in street or out of it, can’t decide (exception of a poor philosopher). But one thing for sure we have always been taught that philosophy has always been a past-time of Athenian aristocracy rather than the destitutes. Are not your views contrary to history of philosophy?”

      Answer:
      There’s 2 points to make here, and so there are 2 answers to your question.

      Point 1: Doing “philosophy” proper involves, to my understanding at least, “making a clear distinction between what is and what is not”. The skill involved here is not just any skill/sophia, but specfically, a judgment-making skill. Presumably, the best judgment-making requires heightened sensitivity to relevant particular content. This last thing I just said, is the relevant part here because Socrates said (in the Crito) that if you wanted to know what is best, you would ask the expert (who Socrates calls, “the one who knows”). Presumably, the expert of YOU would be you, just as the expert of logic would be a logician.

      So, one answer to your question is simply this: The reason why even the lowly paeans who are “destitute” must engage in the activity of “philosophy” (as I had defined above) is because if the lowly paean does not do this work, and nobody else has sufficient qualification to do this work well (and this word “well” is key here), then there can never be an excellent way to be a “lowly and destitute paean”. Put simply, nobody can know how best to be you and how best to live your life, except your own self. So if you want to live the best life that is authentically yours, then this is a task that you must engage in.

      And again, being tenacious, after all, you may ask next, “Why do paeans need to be excellent at all?” And if you are so tenacious, I will return with another question: “Who let the dogs out?”

      Point 2: You are right. This activity is the traditionally the prerogative of the aristoi, as you say, because it is not traditionally considered the proper activity of the oi-polloi (ie, the masses), since they are considered to be, generally speaking, unfit for this type of work. In other words, doing this type of work typically doesn’t make them feel happy, because what they really want is just to reap the benefit(s) of the result(s) of this activity, rather than to engage in the doing of the activity itself. Well, this is the traditional presumption.

      Of course, Socrates changed all that because he’s such a bad-ass paean (and you should totally let him study at Harvard, srsly, before he dies again).

      Now, I am going to quote something significant that Darien said, which you apparently missed. He had written: “In the United States, philosophy is being marketed as a stimulant that can rouse certain members of our political order out of their dogmatic slumber.”

      So what does this sentence mean? It ultimately means this: Just as Socrates once made Alcibiades ashamed of receiving honors and titles just because he was a member of the ruling class though Socrates was the one who was truly deserving (this is from Plato’s Symposium), a virtuous and just populace has the potential to incite shame in the ruling classes now, hopefully prompting them to be what the people “expect” them to be. This is what is meant by Darien’s phrase, to “rouse certain members of our political order out of their dogmatic slumber”.

      Now, what do “the people” expect the members of the ruling class to be like? I have spoken with some of “the people” (because that is what I do), and as irrational as it actually is, they seem to expect the following thing: With power comes responsibility; therefore, the wealthy and privileged should be nicer, more generous, more benevolent, than ordinary people.

      I do not know why they expect this, or why they seem to believe in this maxim. But the fact is that they do. And what’s more, it’s very difficult to show them with logic that their reasoning is flawed (very, very, difficult); try it, and you may get stabbed. And then, here is the clincher: if their expectations are not met, then there will be rioting in the streets again. So, just picture Pocahontas on the roof with a shotgun and ask yourself, is that what you really want? No, I didn’t think so.

      In summary, the answer to your question is this: According to some, the oi-polloi should do philosophy because “irony” is the best tool that they have for bringing about a more just world — a world in which the worse do not rule over the better.

  3. Darien, a thoughtful piece on a topic of increasing significance. (I also enjoyed the ‘code-switching’ rebuttal above).

    As a recent graduate student in Philosophy of Education I’m curious about what I see as an increasing move towards a ‘pedagogical turn’ in philosophy. Public philosophy being a dialogical ‘two-way street’ in educational terms. What can philosophers learn from engaging a public? What can a public learn from philosophy?

    While you make a good case for the origins of philosophy in the foundations laid by Socrates, I can understand why the commenter above (Faisal) is moved to raise the point about class: ‘aristocracy rather than destitutes’. My sense is that it might be worth considering Dewey directly, since it is worth asking why he found it compelling to move towards education rather than other areas of inquiry. At least Dewey was faced with a similar problem to our own: pursue, abandon or reconstruct the path of the academic research philosopher. (Dewey’s reconstruction begins to conflate education with the general purposes of philosophy, an open question in my view).

    Let’s be clear, the type of academic philosophy (which has its own status-anxiety) practiced by researchers serves a different function. I would like to see that work continue, though its not my game. I wonder: must philosophy be reconstructed (even semantically) in order to pursue what are two worthy aims?

    • Adam, your question was:
      “Let’s be clear, the type of academic philosophy (which has its own status-anxiety) practiced by researchers serves a different function. I would like to see that work continue, though its not my game. I wonder: must philosophy be reconstructed (even semantically) in order to pursue what are two worthy aims?”

      I take it that you’re not so interested in any old response to your question, but rather to Darien’s response to the question because it’s his opinion which you value. But seeing as he did not yet take the time to respond, I thought that I could try to answer your question by citing something that Darien himself had written.

      To anticipate the answer, then, perhaps I can say this: Just as the domain of justice has two sub-divisions, namely that of having a right relationship with the gods and that of having a right relationship with fellow humans (from Plato’s Euthyphro), perhaps the domain of philosophy is also already of two sub-divisions — namely, the judgment-making skill in terms of the practical (phronesis) and judgment-making skill in terms of theory (theoretical sophia). Briefly put, the definition of “philosophy” doesn’t need to be reconstructed, since the infrastructure of what it is essential to philosophy is already there. We just need to recognize that excellence in theoretical-sophia is, in some sense, supervenient on excellence in practical-sophia (ie, phronesis). This is obviously a bottom-up view.

      I take that this is what is meant by Darien’s statement: “However, until we will realize that word “philosophy” already presupposes a particular kind of civic engagement—one that Socrates models—there will be no commitment to the street disposition that supplies an essential semantic grounding for this term’s meaning.” And if I have misspoken, perhaps Darien can correct me.

      Now, I made a claim about a bottom-up view earlier, so I will buttress that view a bit here. The notion that the essence of a meaning is dependent on experience comes from Plato’s Symposium. In that book, Socrates talks about a “ladder of love” which allows a person to metaphorically “ascend”, mentally speaking, eventually allowing them to comprehend abstract ideas. However, being fixated on the target and dazzled by its beauty, I think that Western philosophers have, for so long (even Aristotle himself), failed to see that Plato already shows us what is the origin (aitia) of this ascent. And that origin is in the body itself. But being fixated on a goal, the body simply becomes transparent to us, and we fail to notice it at all. So we make the mistake of thinking that it has no part to play in higher-level thinking. But it does.

      In addition to this, Plato also tells us that nothing imperfect can come from something perfect (Timaeus).

      And so, if we take Plato seriously, then we can say that the strength of theoretical-sophia is, in some sense, critically dependent on the strength of the practical-sophia that we start with, since that is, as Darien says, essentially its origin.

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